Tuesday, May 30, 2017

Did Lisa Marie Presley really trash Michael Jackson - Or was it just a rumor?













What's the story between Lisa and Michael? Did they really love each other?  Did she really trash him, or was she lied on by jealous ppl who thought he was better off with Debbie, or Diana ?

These are some of the questions I sought to answer when I started this post. I went to several sites and just listened to what ppl were saying to get a good open- 'mixed' view rather than a closed biased one.
I decided the most objective thing to do was to present the facts and let you guys determine what the truth is for yourselves... But first,  I think we need to dispel some common beliefs, and misconceptions. To start with, The question of trashing him....

Did Lisa Marie trash MJ after the divorce?
The following video demonstrates some of the things Lisa was saying after the divorce, so you tell me if she was trashing him or not..

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PwsoYT_yrXk


Rolling Stone, April 20, 2003 
Rep. Did you worry that there could be any truth to what you were hearing? That he did it?
LMP. "Of course, I fucking worried about it!" "All I had was his word!  How the hell do I know what happened!" There was only he and the kid in the room, I only know what he told me!"


Papermag, on LMP,  2003

“I was really naive,” Presley says. “Its like if you watch yourself talking with a blanket over your head and you pull it off, and go aaaggg! “I wouldn’t consider us friends.” They didn’t speak for four years, and Presley doesn’t seem surprised or saddened by the recent downpour of negative Jackson publicity..


LMP, LA Times – April 6th, 2003

It’s clear that she regards the marriage as a horrible mistake
Does she feel sorry for all the public ridicule?
“I did see the British program, and it does look like he was set up,” she responds. “But, no, I could
never feel sorry for Michael Jackson.”..

MSM chat- Apr 4, 2003
Do you hate him? 
LMP:  No, the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifferent. I'm indifferent...

Playboy 2003. Lisa discuss Michael


PLAYBOY: Did you and Michael discuss having kids?

PRESLEY: Yeah. [Laughs] I got out of that one. “I just don’t think it’s a good idea right now.” But I knew that’s what he wanted. And I knew Debbie Rowe was offering to do it for him while we were married, according to him. She was a nurse who had a crush on him and offered to have his babies. 

LMP, Primetime – April 3rd, 2003

Diane Sawyer: Though nothing Lisa Marie Presley would ever do to her mum would equal this...
DS..MICHAEL JACKSON?
LMP  OH, GOD!!!...I Was hoping you'd forget...

LMP on Howard Stern, April 8th, 2003

Quotes from the interview which you can find on youtube.
She went on HS and laughed at MJ, calling him a weirdo, a freak, motherfucker etc. She went on David Letterman, and laughed, and made fun of him


Marilyn Manson - Manson And Presley Laugh At Jackson, April 2003

Manson And Presley Laugh At Jackson.

"I felt kind of bad when she came over. So I did a little puppet show with it (Jackson with no nose) and made her laugh.

"I said to her, 'Look, you can't get more punk rock than getting married to and/or f***ing a baby dangler. He's a baby dangler! At this point he's saying, 'F*** it, my nose has gone, I'm gonna dangle a baby.'"

Lisa Marie Presley on David Letterman Show, 2003
Laughing at Michael 3:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cktj-30_Rg

Lisa Marie talks to Larry King about Michael Jackson, 2003
This is where she calls his trial a blessing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eImhVa7nKEk

LMP, The Mirror, July 10, 2003

“And I’m still in contact with Nicolas. We talk on the phone all the time. We’re friends – we’ve managed to work that one out. I can’t say that about everyone I’ve been with"

And she adds: “If I were to bump into Michael in the hotel lobby, I’d just say “Hi’… and then walk. We have no contact at all.”
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When I ask her if she is surprised by what has happened to Michael in the intervening years – the money problems, the backlash following the baby-dangling incident, the Martin Bashir interview –

Lisa Marie sighs.“I will just say that at one point I did say: ‘This is like I’m on the Titanic and it’s sinking.’ And I wanted to help, because I could see certain things happening.

“But I said: ‘I’m either going to jump now, or I’m going to go down with you. So I’m going to get out.’ He said: ‘Am I sinking?’ I said: ‘Yeah.’ And then I walked. And he is sinking.

“I didn’t know how long it would take, I didn’t know when. I just knew there was going to be a karma situation. You can’t possibly conduct yourself a certain way and get away with it. I knew the karma police were coming. Do I feel guilt that I left him? On the contrary.” Her eyes flash and she shakes her head emphatically.

LMP, GQ Magazine,  January, 2004

There was always an element of manipulation with him. It would be, “Come meet me here”. And I’d turn up and there’d be press everywhere. That happened a lot. To the point where I’d think it was going to be a charming dinner, just the 2 of us, then bam! Paparazzi all over us.

Looking back, do you see how much you were used?

I can see that the whole operation was in operation. There was a record coming out but I just shut that out at the time. It didn’t seem possible that a person would be so cynical.

Was any part of the marriage normal?

When he wasn’t working and we’d just hang out at the house it was fine. We’d go shopping and go to dinner, people would come over. Although that was only for the first six, seven months, then all that kind of dwindled away. It kind of went to hell in a handbasket....

Toledo Blade – September 28th, 2006 Finally, she can quickly work herself into an profanity-laced lather when asked about her ex-husband Jackson, especially the notorious kiss on the Video Music Awards in 1994, but she doesn’t whine. So get off her case.

“It’s one of those things like, I don’t like to say I have regrets but I definitely regret that time period,” she said in a telephone conference call with about a dozen journalists.

“And what are you going to (expletive) do, to be honest with you? You’re young, you’re stupid, and you’re blinded, and you do something really dumb, and you can’t ever live it down? How many people do that on their own and don’t necessarily get it advertised? I know that was kind of enormous, but I’m just saying it’s not something I’m proud of.”....

Clearly exasperated, she wrapped up the answer with a question and a blunt demand.
“What am I supposed to say at this point? Get over it. It was a long time ago and I made a mistake!

Claire Magazine, 2008

"My biggest mistake? Let's see," she begins quietly. "How can I word this? Um. Well. Leaving my first marriage, for the person that I left it for — that was probably the biggest mistake of my life."

"I was really naive at the time. I was in la-la land." She grimaces slightly, pushes some fallen hair from her forehead, then lets it all go.      

2010. Lisa joked about Michael being a pedophile.

Jason Scott Lee and Carmen Llywellyn were talking to Lisa Marie Presley one night and they asked her ‘Come on tell us the truth, why did you really divorce Michael Jackson?' She said, ‘The reason I finally left him was that I didn't want him to be in the same room as my children!'http://gawker.com/5508855/
jason-lees...as-and-cruises

After his passing, the negative talking did not stop.

Oprah: “So to this day you believe none of those charges are true?” 

Lisa Marie: “No. I cannot say. The only people who are ever going to be able to say are him (Michael) and whoever were in the room at the time of whatever allegedly took place. I was never in the room. I can tell you that I never saw anything like that....

Michael left Lisa because she refused to have children with him. The divorce had nothing to do with him being on 'drugs'

Michael told the Rabbi that lisa was offering 9 babies if he would take her back and that he told her no. He said his heart was closed and that Lisa was going to his family trying to get them to intervene on her behalf and get Michael to take her back. He said his heart was closed, and that he had NO Intentions of taking her back....

There are a lot of ppl who believe lisa was a great wife to MJ, and that she was someone he could always count on. That she was someone who loved him beyond limits and stood up for him.... Hmmmm I wasn't so sure before, but after I explored it, and did a lot of research, I was shocked to discover that she had indeed trashed him, because he left her. Then she pretended they had a 4 year affair after the break up and pretended that MJ was trying to get her back, while I have extensive proof that not only did he NOT WANT HER BACK, but like the gentlemen he is, he kept quiet while she trashed the heck out of him, and even went to ppl like Oprah and pretended that he was trying desperately to win HER BACK! She knew that was not true! He had not been taking her calls, and had been leaving on extensive trips, HOPING she would file for divorce...And when she did file, MJ eagerly signed the papers and fled to Paris. Lisa then followed him around the world on (his tours) and begged him to take her back. MJ said NO> he told the Rabbi that his heart was closed. That LIsa was promising 9 babies, and sending begging letters and going to his family to get them to intervene on her behalf (Yes, I have the documentation on that) It was not true that he ever wanted her back or ever had an ongoing 4 yr affair with her after the divorce. MJ left and Lisa followed, and he is ON TAPE saying to the Rabbi that he had not wanted to hurt her feelings, but had NEVER wanted her back! He considered them FRIENDS after the divorce and nothing more...

Monday, May 29, 2017

What is the meaning behind Dirty Diana- and was it about Diana Ross?


The Ever Beautiful Ms Diana Earnestine Ross. This woman was the Love of Michael J Jackson's life, and the inspiration behind many of his most poignant and beautiful songs. Unfortunately, she was also the impetus behind many of his greatest heartaches as well... Did he write Dirty Diana because of her?

                        
I've researched him for years, and I can tell you with certainty, That song (DD)  is 100% about Diana Ross! She was the LOHL, and after she promised to marry him, he thought his dream was finally coming true.  She agreed  to marry him in the mid 80s, and accepted his ring. You see it on her finger at the Motown 25th show and the AMA of 84. In fact, at the AMA is the first time she kissed him (in the mouth-in public!) She was also holding his face in her hands so ppl could see the ring. She was testing the waters to see how the public would react -Diana has always done that..They then told his mother together. Katherine Jackson threw a fit. She told Diana she was too old for her son, and that she was soiling him.. she called the papers, and told reporters. Reporters began following and harassing Di. they kept making age cracks and calling her a cradle robber and the like. Diana could not take the pressure, she ran off with Arne Names  instead, and left MJ devastated! He was so angry and upset, he wrote  a ton of love and heartbreak songs about her.

Why MJ began to put mountain lines in several songs....

He also began to include a lot of  getting over mountain lines in his songs, like these..
1 Fallen;    Left ourselves a mountain to be overcome'         
2. IYOB    I'll climb the mountain top with you.....         
3. Spl      There's no mountain top I cannot climb for you...         
4 LMA    Ain't no mountain that I can't climb baby!         
5. BBM   There'll be no more mountains for us to climb....

The reason he did this is because Diana left him for a  (famed mountain climber!) -and he was letting her know he was not going to let her go, that he was going to keep fighting for her.... After he stopped crying, he got angry. He had spent millions buying her whatever she wanted. He had spent years trying to marry her. He wrote DD and it was  mean spirited, and designed to make her look like a slut!  It was originally much worse.. But MJ wrote it as a fuck you song to her for breaking his heart  That's why he said 'She likes the boys in the band".. Diana loved musicians and dated Lionel Richie of commodores, Barry Gibb of the Bee gees and Gene Simmons of Kiss WHILE she was supposed to be with Michael! She also caused a life long feud between he and Gene when she slept with Gene and called out MJ name! Gene blamed MJ and they were enemies for life... Anyway, This is also why he said she would say JUST MAKE ME A STAR!!!   MJ felt that she just wanted fame and money even over the man who desperately loved her (HIM) {The part about her saying he's not coming home because he's sleeping with me! is him describing her behavior every time he would try valiantly to get her out of his system, and try to be with someone else.} She would mysteriously show up, get jealous, and try to wrap herself around him...(instantly, he would be drawn back in)..   Go watch Di when MJ had the publicity date with Madonna, she went and sat in his lap, and hogged all his attention...  Go watch her when Liz taylor came on stage to give him moral support after Di married and he was obviously very upset. Di was on stage flirting with Lionel Richie, and the moment LIz came and tried to hold MJ's hand, Di rushed over and grabbed his arm, she also moved in between them during the song, (WATW) and tried to push Liz away! When Brooke was his date for the AMAs she did the same. She was on stage, so she flirted from the stage with him, and blew kisses! When he came up to get his award, she latched on and flirted so hard, she forgot her lines! That's what he was talking about, her refusing to commit, but coming in to ruin every relationship he had with other women, even platonic ones... he wrote the song and made her sound like a whore. the 2nd verse really went in hard at her, and all but called her a whore.  When Quincy Jones heard the song he flipped out! He said everyone would know it was about her, and begged MJ not to do that to her. He told him to tone it way down, and change the 2nd verse so it sounded like a groupie. Then to just tell everyone it was about Groupies when they asked. That's what they did, but Diana knew it was about her, and she was so angry she didn't speak to Michael for weeks.....

(3 things  absolutely prove it's about her....

1.  There is a scene in one of Di's videos (chain reaction _ beginning )  when Di gets out of the car looking slim and sexy, she then struts into a building to the beat....  MJ MIRRORED this scene in the official DD video.  A girl (who represents Diana) gets out of the car looking slim and sexy (and dressed much the same as DR), also struts to the beat into the building .. It's the same scene replayed over from Diana's video,  because it's about the same woman - Diana Ross!

2.  When di  forgave him, and started speaking to him again, she joked about him making a thot song about her, and even recorded her OWN version of it, and used it as an intro to her show!! 

3. MJ was hopelessly in love with Di,  He was like a man possessed! He had a large room in his home filled with photos, pics, painting of Diana ross. and it also contained 1000s of candles burning for her 24/7 (an Obeah man gave him the stupid idea when he was a kid, that  burning the candles with a center picture-of your beloved, would keep her from leaving you) So he always had 1000s of candles burning to  central pictures of Diana ( 24-7) That same scene was replicated in the video, when he had the crowd holding up 1000s of candles to his beloved  "Diana' at the end!!  Diana is the ONLY woman he ever had this type of candle-ceremony for!  This song has her written all over it...





Thursday, May 25, 2017

Why was she the most important woman in his life?

 The king and the Lady in his life.....

I love this picture, because for one, it shows the engagement ring on her finger, and two, you can see they both closed their eyes. Everyone knows you close your eyes when you're experiencing ecstasy, a great food, a delicious drink, a kiss from your beloved...

Michael loved Diana more than anything. She was the sunshine in his life, and that's why he called her the most important woman in his life, and "The One"  Michael wanted to marry this woman more than anything.. He NEVER responded to any other woman the way he did to Diana. He loved her so much. 

Michael called Di the most important woman in his life, so much, journalists began to call her that! Here is an example article from the 80s.. It's important to understand that the love MJ had for Di surpassed the physical, and delved far into the spiritual range. It was a love that surpassed age, and right and wrong, and is perpetual... Many ppl cannot understand why he loved her so much, but what they fail to understand is that she was his spiritual counterpart. His soulmate. He KNEW he could tell her anything and it was like putting it in a vault! Di can hold water like nobody's business... Michael often spoke of telling her his dreams and mentioned that she told him her dreams too. He also mentioned being able to CONFIDE in her. The love they shared was the stuff of fairy tales...sigh . just beautiful...